Tuesday, September 25, 2007

Disney dining plan

Okay. Here's the deal.

Everyone's going to have to decide if the Dining plan makes sense. Basically, for $39/adult and $11/child - per day you get a snack, a counter service meal (e.g. Pecos Bill's at MK), and a table service meal (e.g. 50's Prime Time). Here's the lowdown from TourGuideMike (it's long):


Magic Your Way plus Dining Package

Vacation Profile: [Updtd Feb 16, 07] Disney's new Magic Your Way Package can also include this extra-cost Dining Package that can, potentially, save you a lot of cash! Will you be staying at a Disney-owned Resort, and do you plan on dining at a combination of counter service and table service restaurants? If yes, you need to have a look!


Lookin' for the List of Restaurant Participants? If that's all you're after, ~fname~, click here to scroll down this page to the current restaurant locations that participate in the Magic Your Way plus Dining Package.

Who can reserve the Dining Package? Unlike the basic Magic Your Way Package that's available at a variety of hotels, this package is only available to guests staying at one of the Disney-owned and managed Resorts at Walt Disney World. If it doesn't have "Disney's" in front of its name, it's not offering this package! ;>)

Page Advice: ~fname~, there are a lot of factors you should consider if you're eligible for this Dinner Package. I recommend that you carefully review ALL of the information on this page, including the 'Pros,' 'Cons,' and 'Considerations and More' portions below the package details. I have attempted to answer any questions a guest might have here on one page -- and that wasn't a simple task! If you still have a question or two, why not post them in the AVP Forums under the Restaurants & Dining Planning topic?

Package Details: This package includes Magic Your Way Base Tickets plus a prepaid dining plan for each member in your party. Your Magic Your Way Base Ticket can be for any number of days you need it for -- an important point, and you can also add on the available Park Hopper, Water Park Fun & More, Premium, and No Expiration Options if you like.

However, the Dining Package portion must match the total number of nights you have on your reservation, and it must be purchased for every member in your party who is age three and above. For example, if you're coming Sunday through Friday (5 nights & 6 days), you could purchase 4-Day Magic Your Way Plus Park Hopper Option tickets if that's all you really need, but everyone will be charged for five nights' worth of the Dining Package.

The additional cost is $38.99 per night per adult (ages 10 and older) and $10.99 per night per child (ages 3 - 9).

What do you receive with the Dining Package? For each night on your reservation, each member will receive:

One Table Service meal that includes 1 appetizer, 1 entrée, 1 dessert, and 1 single serving of a non-alcoholic beverage. (For the record, I can't think of a single child's menu that offers an appetizer, but how many young children would want one anyway?) If a restaurant serves a buffet, your non-alcoholic beverage is also included -- you'd normally be charged extra for it. All character meals count as table service meals, and are available with this package. By the way, this package ALSO covers the gratuity -- and that 15 to 20% adds up real quick!

One Counter Service meal that includes 1 entrée with a side, 1 dessert, and our 1 single serving of a non-alcoholic beverage again. You're also invited to order a combo meal -- almost all of Disney's counter service restaurants offer them -- with dessert! :>)

One Snack can include anything under $4.00 (with exceptions such as pizza) Examples are a piece of fruit or a "grab-bag" size of Frito-Lay brand chips, an ice-cream bar, a single serving box of popcorn, a 20 oz. bottle of Coke, Diet Coke, Sprite, a 24 oz. Dasani water, nachos, bakery items, smoothies, and Mickey rice krispy treats. (Whew!)

So ... If we have a family of four coming for our 5 night, 6 day vacation above, each one of the four (age 3 and older) will receive 5 table service meals, 5 counter service meals, and 5 snacks. Also, the order of how the meals are used is entirely up to you! Does Joey want two snacks on Monday? That's fine -- and he'll be able to consume three more (or more if you and/or others don't want all of theirs) during the duration of your stay. Do you want to visit two table service restaurants on the same day? It's fine. Get the point?

Order what you like! No, ~fname~, there are no limitations on the menu, nor are you slipped a 'special' one with less expensive options! You'll use the same menus as everyone else, and can order whatever you like -- no matter how expensive the menu choice is. Woohoo!

Well, except for two places ... Both Wolfgang Puck's and Planet Hollywood have a surcharge added to a few of their menu items. Think of it as a co-pay -- if you want the more expensive menu items (surf & turf, whole lobster), Disney won't cover the whole price. You will have to pay a small surcharge for those more expensive entrees.

Some table service restaurants cost more! Not all of Disney's table service restaurants provide menus in the same price range. That's not surprising is it? Their most expensive dining locations are called 'Signature Dining,' and these choices will require two of your table service meals from the package. Also, Disney offers three Dinner Shows for their guests, and those also require two table service meals per guest as well.

Did you notice the 'night' vs. 'day' thing? I want to point out that word choice again ... The number of meals you receive per person is tied to your number of nights, not the number of days. Are you arriving in the evening and departing in the morning or early afternoon like 90% of the other guests? Compare the number of meals you'll need throughout your vacation to the number you actually receive with this package. Does that affect your decision?

Child and Adult Credits are not the same: Child credits can only be used to purchase a child’s meal. In January 2007 Disney started differentiating between adult and child credits for table service meals. Child credits can no longer be used to pay for an adult meal. Your receipt will indicate the number of child and adult credits remaining.


You could save a lot of money (or eat better than you normally would have budgeted): IF your dining needs match what's offered in this package, it can be an outstanding deal for you! Let me have a look at what I might order while at the Magic Kingdom for a day:

Counter Service: I like the Pecos Bill Cafe after Splash Mountain, so let's go there for lunch. I'll have their Combo #1 (Chicken Wrap with french fries), a medium Sprite, and a slice of chocolate cream pie.

My Counter Service Subtotal: $7.49 (wrap) + $1.99 (drink) + $1.99 (pie) = $11.47 + .75 tax = $12.22

Snack: Thanks, I'll have one of those bottles of Dasani water for $2, please. It's important to stay hydrated don't you know ... ;>)

Table Service: I'm famished! Let's run over to Tony's Town Square Restaurant for dinner. Suzi made it for 7:15 p.m. because we're never hungry before then. We have a reservation so that means we won't have to wait, right? ()

45 minutes later ... Hi, I'd like the Insalata con Meta e Gorgonzola Doce for my appetizer, the 12 oz. Bistecca ai Ferri for my entrée, a glass of iced tea, and a slice of chocolate cake for dessert.

Table Service Subtotal: $7.49 (field greens) + $23.49 (NY Strip) + $2.19 (tea) + $6 (cake) = $39.17 + 20% gratuity + tax = $49.55

My Grand Total for one day = $63.77
How much I paid Disney with this package = $38.99
How much I saved in only one day: $24.78

You don't have to keep track of your meals! Disney does this for you each time you buy something at a restaurant or cart, AND only one adult member needs to hand over a Resort ID for everyone who you're ording for. (Yes, it's okay if someone is back in the room, outside, etc.) You'll see your party's outstanding balance of TOTAL meals remaining at the bottom of the receipt, broken down by snacks, counter service, and table service.

For example, our family of four above received a total of 20 snacks, 20 table service meals, and 20 counter service meals when they checked in (4 guests x 5 nights). By the time they eat dinner on Wednesday night their receipt might indicate that they have 6 snacks, 5 counter service, and 3 table service meals remaining.

You CAN pay for your meals if you like: Why would you do this? If a child (or anyone else) doesn't feel like eating much, why waste a table service meal on him or her? 'Bank' it for later to use at a more expensive character meal, ~fname~! (Or better yet -- one of the dinner shows that require two table service meals per person!) You can use credits for some meals and pay for other meals even while you're all seated at the same dinner. To the server: "Please charge three of the table service meals from our Dining Package, and we'll pay for her meal ourselves." (You'll receive two checks then: one for the Dining Package meals and one for what you want to pay for yourself. It's no different than if you requested split checks at a restaurant back home for a visiting cousin you don't want to pay for!)

Are you a 'Deluxe Diner'? I may not be able to use this package for many of my VIP Tour guests because we usually dine at a table service location for both lunches and dinners, plus a character breakfast or two. (Although ... I'll still have to have a look at our dining itinerary plans. They could use the counter service for breakfast -- if they're not regularly grabbing something at Concierge or via room service -- and each dinner alone is normally more than the $38.99 cost of this package per night per adult and $10.99 per child.) Do you dine at counter service restaurants?
Do you plan on dining at Epcot's World Showcase or Downtown Disney? Although Disney has added quite a lot of Epcot and Downtown Disney's restaurants to the plan, there are still a few that aren't listed. Please check which restaurants are eligible - so you don't have any nasty surprises!


Will you get your money's worth? My fictitious self easily did above under 'Pros,' but that's not how I would really eat. Will you? I'm a 6-foot, 180-pound 'regular guy,' and there's no way I could possibly eat all that food in one day -- or even at one meal. Still, it's pretty easy for 'normal eaters' to come out ahead too.

Let's look at how an average couple might eat. (And before I get any emails accusing me of being sexist, know that my 'example female' fits the description of 95% of the women I have personally hosted.)

At Pecos Bill's:

Her: Chicken Salad, no dessert, and an iced tea

Him: 1/2 Pound Double Bacon Cheeseburger with fries (even though he knows he shouldn't -- he's on vacation gosh darn it), chocolate cream pie (she has a couple of bites), medium lemonade

Their Counter Service Subtotal: (Her) $6.39 + $1.99 / (Him) $7.29 + $1.99 + $1.99 = $19.65 + tax = $20.93

Snacks: They each get a bottle of water because they know the importance of staying properly hydrated. Subtotal: $4

At Tony's:

Her: Most likely won't want an appetizer because she'll say she's not hungry enough. She'll order the Pesce del Giorno as her entrée, which is pan-seared Wahoo with lemon-Risotto Cake. This is an Italian restaurant, so she'd like a glass of wine or two, but alas, Tony's does not serve any Vino. Oh well, she says she is fine with water. Oh, and no dessert please because she's watching her figure. ;>)

Him: I told him the calamari is really good here, so he orders it as his appetizer. He's a steak man, so he orders the 12 oz. NY Strip even though he's at an Italian restaurant ... He orders a Coke. When the server offers the dessert menu at the end of the meal -- like they always do -- he doesn't order anything because he can't possibly eat any more.

Their Table Service Subtotal: (Her) $22.49 / (Him) $7.29 + $23.49 + $2.19 = $32.97 + 20% gratuity + tax = $66.55

Their Grand Total for one day = $91.48
How much they paid Disney for this package = $77.98
How much they saved* in only one day: $13.50

The included gratuity is only 18%: Although some tip less for buffets because the server is only taking care of drinks and removing plates, most people tip 20% for good service at table service restaurants. Some servers resent the fact that no matter how hard they work, their tip will be the lower 18% that comes with this package. Hey, how would you feel on a busy, hectic night?

To ensure my guests and I receive the best possible level of service, I like to let the server know we plan on tipping more, but in a way that's both subtle and clear: "I understand the package we're on only comes with a 18% gratuity, but we normally tip 20% for helpful service. Is there a way we can tip more if we wish to?" Works every time -- and it's only fair if they are doing a good job. I hope you agree. (And, yes, you can easily tip more if you like.)

Unused meals DO expire: It's not Disney's fault if you don't use all of your meal options, ~fname~. When your vacation is over, your opportunity to dine at their restaurants with this package is over as well. (However, because of the savings potential, it may not matter if you end up 'throwing away' a meal or two.)
But let's be very clear about 'when' they expire: From the day or evening you arrive, until Midnight later that evening on the day you check out, you can continue to use the Dining Package as long as you have meals remaining in your 'Meal Bank.' If you check out at 8 a.m. in the morning and go over to the Animal Kingdom for the day before you leave for the airport, you can still use your Dining Package to pay for any meals or snacks. (Tip: Your room charge will still work too ...)
Consider more than one hotel reservation if necessary: Are you wanting to explore one or more of the other Central Florida theme parks like Universal, Islands of Adventure, or SeaWorld? This package is tied to your number of nights on the reservation, and it doesn't matter if you have time to use all of your meals ... See the potential waste of them?

If you're staying at a Disney hotel for your entire visit instead of transferring to a Universal hotel, consider making one hotel reservation for the number of 'Disney' nights/days you need -- with the Dining Package, and another before or after it for your 'Other Parks' nights/days -- without the Dining Package.

You'll have to check in and out at the beginning/end of each reservation, but as long as you have the two reservations noted on each one -- so the Room Assignor recognizes you're the same party on both of them -- you won't be moved to a different room. (The Disney Reservations cast member may tell you otherwise, but they simply don't know better and don't work at the hotel. I've been giving this advice for nearly eight years with no reports of anyone being moved.)

The 'time' of your meal doesn't matter: A table service restaurant is a table service restaurant; a counter service restaurant is a counter service restaurant. That you're using your Dinner Package meal option for breakfast, lunch, or dinner doesn't matter -- it's entirely up to you.
Use your 'To Go' option when applicable! You're at a counter service or table service location and don't feel like eating your dessert option that comes with the package? Ask for it 'to go' and chow down later ... ;>)
Take care of yourself! You know I care about your health, right? I looked at the nutrition table of a packaged ice-cream sandwich the other day at Disney-MGM and it had over 70 grams of carbohydrates and 550 calories. I kid you not, ~fname~. No one needs that much sucrose flooding through their bloodstream ... Please consider using your snack options for good ol' healthy and hydrating bottles of water or nice pieces of fruit? Thanks! :>)





List of Restaurant Participants

This list is current as of February 2007 but know that the restaurant choices you see below could change at any time. I will do my best to stay up on this for you and will edit this page as needed.


Disney's 4 Theme Parks

Magic Kingdom

Table Service:

Once Upon a Time Breakfast at Cinderella's Royal Table - Character B-- Signature
A Fairytale Lunch at Cinderella's Royal Table - Character L-- Signature
Dreams Come True Dinner at Cinderella's Royal Table - Character D-- Signature
The Crystal Palace - Character B, L and D
The Liberty Tree Tavern - L
Goofy's Liberate your Appetite Dinner at Liberty Tree Tavern - Character D
The Plaza Restaurant - L, D
Tony's Town Square Restaurant - L, D

Counter Service:

Casey's Corner - L, D
Columbia Harbour House - L, D
Cosmic Ray's Starlight Café - L, D
El Pirata y el Perico Restaurante - L, D
The Lunching Pad - L, D
Main Street Bakery - B, L and D
Pecos Bill Tall Tale Inn and Café - L, D
Pinocchio Village Haus - L, D
Tomorrowland Terrace Noodle Station - L, D

Snacks:

The counter service locations above plus:

Aunt Polly's Dockside Inn - L
Ice Cream Carts - Everywhere
Popcorn Wagons - Everywhere
Soda Carts - Everywhere


Epcot

Table Service:

Future World:

Chip 'n Dale's Harvest Feast at the Garden Grill (Land Pavilion) - L, D
Coral Reef Restaurant (Living Seas Pavilion) - L, D

World Showcase:

Le Cellier Steakhouse (Canada) - L, D
Rose & Crown Pub & Dining Room (UK) - L, D
Les Chefs de France (France) - L, D
Restaurant Marrakesh (Morocco) - L, D
L'Originale Alfredo di Roma Ristorante (Italy) - L, D
Mitsukoshi Teppanyaki Dining Room (Japan) - L, D
Biergarten Restaurant (Germany) - L, D
Nine Dragons (China) - L, D
Princess Storybook Dining at Restaurant Akershus (Norway) - B, L, D
San Angel Inn (Mexico) - L, D

Counter Service:

Future World:

Electric Umbrella Restaurant (East Side) - L, D
Fountain View Espresso & Bakery (West Side) - B, L, D
Sunshine Seasons Food Fair (Land Pavilion) - B, L, D

World Showcase:

Yorkshire County Fish Shop featuring Harry Ramsden's Fish & Chips (UK) - L, D
Boulangerie Patisserie (France) - L, D
Tangierine Cafe (Morocco) - L, D
Liberty Inn (USA) - L, D
Yakatori House (Japan) - L, D
Sommerfest (Germany) - L, D
Lotus Blossom Cafe (China) - L, D
Kringla Bakeri Og Kafe (Norway) - L, D
Cantina de San Angel (Mexico) - L, D


Snacks:

Future World:

Electric Umbrella Restaurant (East Side)
Refreshment Cool Post
Fountain View Espresso & Bakery (West Side)
Sunshine Season Food Fair (Land Pavilion)

World Showcase:

Yorkshire County Fish Shop featuring Harry Ramsden's Fish & Chips (UK)
Kringla Bakeri Og Kafe (Norway)
Liberty Inn (USA)
Sommerfest (Germany)
Refreshment Outpost (Africa-themed, next to China)
Refreshment Port at Showcase Plaza (On right before Canada)

Everywhere:

Ice Cream Carts
Popcorn Wagons
Soda Carts


Disney-MGM Studios

Table Service:

50's Prime Time Café - L, D
The Hollywood Brown Derby - L, D -- Signature
Playhouse Disney's Play 'n' Dine at Hollywood & Vine- Character B and L
Hollywood & Vine - D
Mama Melrose's Ristorante Italiano - L, D
Sci-Fi Dine-In Theater Restaurant - L, D

Note: This package can also be used to pay for the Fantasmic Dinner Package.

Counter Service:

ABC Commissary - B, L, D
Backlot Express - L, D
Catalina Eddie's - L, D
Rosie's All American Café - L, D
Starring Rolls Cafe - B, L
Studio Catering Co. - L, D
Toluca Turkey Leg Co. - L, D
Toy Story Pizza Planet - L, D

Snacks:

The counter service locations above plus:

Dinosaur Gertie's Ice Cream of Extinction
Ice Cream Carts - Everywhere
Popcorn Wagons - Everywhere
Soda Carts - Everywhere


Disney's Animal Kingdom

Table Service:

Donald's Breakfastosaurus at Restaurantosaurus - Character breakfast only

Note: The Rainforest Café does not participate in this package.

Counter Service:

Flame Tree Barbeque - L, D
Pizzafari - L, D
Restaurantosaurus - L, D
Tusker House Restaurant - B, L, D

Snacks:

The counter service locations above plus:

Dino Bites
Ice Cream Carts - Everywhere
Popcorn Wagons - Everywhere
Soda Carts - Everywhere


Disney's Resorts - A Summary

Instead of listing a gazillion restaurants, I'd like to try and make this a little easier to understand. The following observations are all you really need to know. All of the restaurants that provide the table service option are listed below them.

The Value Resorts only have counter service locations to choose from, regardless. They can be used for both your counter service and snack options, and are available for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Note: The breakfast menu is less expensive than the lunch and dinner menus, so let's use your 'Meal Bank' wisely ... ;>)

The Food Courts at the Moderate Resorts can be used for both your counter service and snack options, and are available for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

The pool-side bars at the Resorts can not be used for your counter service or snack options. Why? I don't know. The exceptions are Hurricane Hanna's Grill at Disney's Beach Club and Siesta's Pool Bar at Coronado Springs because they have a more extensive menu, and there are both counter service and snack options available.

All of the Deluxe and Home Away From Home Resorts have both a counter service and at least one table service restaurant for their guests. The counter service locations can be used for both your counter service and snack options; the table service is for your table service option. Private In-Room Dining (2 table service credits) is also available at all but Old Key West and Saratoga Springs Resort and Spa. The exception is Fort Wilderness -- it only has its two dinner shows and one table service location. There are no places that accept your counter service or snack options!


Disney Resorts - Table Service

Now that we have the basics covered above, let's review your table service options at Disney's Resorts.

Note: Those that are noted with Signature and Dinner Show have more expensive menus or prices and require 2 table service meals from each participant.

Disney's Animal Kingdom Lodge
Boma - Flavors of Africa - B, D
Jiko - The Cooking Place - D -- Signature

Disney's Beach Club Resort
Breakfast Beach Club Buffet at Cape May Café - Character B
Cape May Café - D
Beaches & Cream Soda Shop - L, D

Disney's BoardWalk Inn & Villas
Big River Grille and Brewing Works - L, D
ESPN Club - L, D
Flying Fish Café - D -- Signature
Spoodles - B, D


Disney's Caribbean Beach Resort
Shutters at Old Port Royale - D



Disney's Contemporary Resort
California Grill -- Signature
Chef Mickey's Fun Time Buffet at Chef Mickey's - Character B and D
Concourse Steakhouse - L, D

Disney's Coronado Springs Resort
Maya Grill - B, D



Disney's Fort Wilderness Resort & Campground
Crockett's Tavern - D
Trail's End Restaurant - B, L, D
Hoop-Dee-Doo Musical Revue -- Dinner Show (tiers 2 and 3 seats only)
Mickey's Backyard BBQ -- Dinner Show

Disney's Grand Floridian Resort & Spa
Supercalifragilistic Breakfast at 1900 Park Fare - Character B
Cinderella's Gala Feast at 1900 Park Fare - Character D
Citricos - D -- Signature
Grand Floridian Café - B, L, D
Narcoossee's - D -- Signature

Note: Victoria & Albert's does not participate in this package

Disney's Old Key West Resort
Olivia's Café - B, L, D

Disney's Polynesian Resort
Kona Cafe - B, L, D
'Ohana - D
'Ohana Best Friends Breakfast - Character B
Disney's Spirit of Aloha -- Dinner Show (tiers 2 and 3 seats only)

Disney's Port Orleans Resort
Boatwright's Dining Hall - B, D



Disney's Saratoga Springs Resort and Spa
Turf Club Car and Grill - L, D



Disney's Wilderness Lodge
Whispering Canyon Café - B, L, D
Artist Point - D -- Signature

Disney's Yacht Club Resort
Yacht Club Galley - B, L, D
Yachtsman Steakhouse - D -- Signature


Remaining Parks & Places

Disney's Blizzard Beach Water Park
Avalunch
Lottawatta Lodge
The Warming Hut

Disney's Typhoon Lagoon Water Park
Leaning Palms
Typhoon Tilly's

Note: Both of Disney's water parks only have counter service restaurants. You can use both your counter service and snack options at the above locations -- only.

Downtown Disney
Cap'n Jack's Restaurant - table service, Marketplace
Earl of Sandwich - counter service, Marketplace
Planet Hollywood - table service, Pleasure Island
Wolfgang Puck cafe- table service, West Side
Wolfgang Puck Express - counter service, Marketplace
Raglan Road - table service, Pleasure Island
Cooke's of Dublin - counter service, Pleasure Island
Food Quest - counter service, West Side (in DisneyQuest)

Note: Wolfgang Puck accepts the dining package in the first floor cafe-- only. They will not use dining credits on the second level dining area.


Disney's Eagle Pines and Osprey Ridge Golf Courses
Sand Trap Bar and Grill - table service

Disney's Wide World of Sports
Official All-Star Café - table service

Disney's Grand Gathering Experiences
Good Morning Gathering
Safari Celebration Dinner
IllumiNations Dinner and Dessert Reception

Note: All Grand Gathering Experiences require 2 Table Service meals per person.

This page provides the prices and options to think about, but do you have any other questions about tickets and reserving Disney's packages? If so, you should definitely check out the ticket section of my Vacation Articles section! Have a look at "Planning Step 5: My Tickets Articles Guide."

Copyright © 2007, TourGuideMiKE, L.L.C. All Rights Reserved. We are not affiliated with the Walt Disney Company.

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I know everyone will have questions. Email me! I guess the bottom line for us is will we spend $130 a day on food? Or more accurately I guess, will we spend $1300 in total for food/dining/entertainment options (i.e. How much will we also spend on "character dining" which is included in the dining plan?)

Here's a link to the participating restaurants and a good overview of how many points it will cost.

Sunday, September 23, 2007

Tentative week's schedule

Something for everyone to think about, with MUCH more detail to follow.

Saturday, October 27.
Arrival day. Drop-off stuff at resort, followed by shopping, groceries and Downtown Disney.

Sunday, October 28.
MNSSHP. Preceded by rest, shopping (?). I wouldn't mind heading over to DisneyQuest with the boys in the later a.m. The only problem? TFF has unactivated tickets which means that the "plus" part of the tickets isn't available yet and you'd have to pay for DQ. Now, the difference between an 8 day and 10 day ticket is about $4. You might want to get more days than you need on your tickets and then just walk into Epcot or MGM or something on Saturday, just to activate them. This would also open up some October 27 evening possibilities like fireworks or, Ewa I'm looking at you now, Pleasure Island.

Monday, October 29.
Epcot. Princess Storybook Breakfast (or Lunch). Fireworks at Epcot, and then back to resort? Keep in mind, the next night for Wishes and Spectromagic parade at MK is on Thursday.

Tuesday, October 30.
MGM. SciFi diner for lunch? Easy afternoon back at resort? Back to MGM for Fantasmic at 7.30.

Wednesday, October 31.
Animal Kingdom. Easy afternoon - Blizzard Beach or DQ? Adults night at Pleasure Island.

Thursday, November 1.

Open. We'll probably head back to MK or MGM. Options: Blizzard Beach, DQ, shopping. Dinner (Whispering Canyon) then Wishes and Spectro.

Friday, November 2.
MK. Easy afternoon, Pleasure Island at night.

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Things to keep in mind:

1. Most afternoons are reasonably open for swimming, Downtown Disney, etc - IF everyone gets to the parks early enough. (i.e. we get through all the rides earlier in the day, leaving more of the afternoon open).

2. I'm good for Pleasure Island EACH AND EVERY NIGHT we're there. (Except Sunday).

3. Consider getting more ticket days than you need and activating early.

Monday, September 17, 2007

Princess dining

Anybody interested in Cinderella's Royal Table (CRT) or Princess Storybook Dining (PSD) at Epcot? Bekah's said she wants to do CRT again, but I'm going to try to convince her to do PSD.

From TGM:

Restaurant Akershus - Princess Storybook Dining



Intro: NORWAY [Updtd May 14, 06] Does a "Princess Storybook Dining" experience sound like fun? The ever-popular Disney Princesses are here in a castle-like setting for breakfast, lunch and dinner! The breakfast is traditional American, but the buffets later in the day will definitely satisfy your Scandinavian hunger!

Details: Hooray, hooray, we have two, count 'em, two restaurants to dine with Disney's Royalty! The heavens parted and there was light ... Make an Advance Dining Reservation as soon as you can, Carl, because it's become one of the most popular dining locations at Walt Disney World.

"They" say that Cinderella is still confined to her Castle, poor dear, but you may meet Snow White, Mulan, Mary Poppins, Belle, Jasmine, Princess Aurora, Ariel, Alice and Pocahontas. (As with all character dining locations, the characters that appear each day are subject to change, so please use my information as a helpful guide only!)

My sermon: Celebrate who is there and don’t worry about who’s not! The glass is always half full when you're on vacation! Regardless, you can count on having at least 5 of these lovely ladies there with you.




Meal Hours and Prices:

Breakfast: 8:30 - 10:10 a.m.
$22.99 (10+), $12.99 (3-9)

Lunch: 11:40 a.m. - 2:50 p.m.
$24.99 (10+), $13.99 (3-9)

Dinner: 4:20 - 8:40 pm.
$28.99 (10+), $13.99 (3-9)

And before you ask ... Yes, this is included in the new Disney Dining Package for Magic Your Way for all three meals!


Dining Choices:

The breakfast menu remains the same (juices, coffee, water, fruit platter, potatoes, eggs, sausage, bacon, etc.), and its 'family style dining' format replaces the buffet they used to have for lunch and dinner.

'Family Style' means they bring the food to your table and it's 'all you can eat.' You simply ask for more servings of 'yadda, yadda.'

Lunch and dinner are also served family style, and have a few traditional Norwegian dishes available (but not as many as in the past).

Even without the new character angle, I easily recommend this very good restaurant! The Norwegian-style salmon is 'delish! Come on, grab a hold of that Viking-mentality and bring some dining adventure into your life. You won't be sorry!

Menu Examples: Family style meal: fresh salads, shrimp salads, sliced roast beef and turkey, potato salad, smoked salmon (Yum!), smoked pork, steamed white fish, stuffed pork, sliced ham, baked pasta, venison stew, a variety of fresh baked breads and rolls, desserts, and hot and cold beverages.


Advance Dining Reservations: To make an Advance Dining Reservation, call Disney Dining: English: 407-WDW-DINE (939-3463) / Español: 407-WDISNEY (934-7639), opción #2. They're open seven days a week from 7 a.m. to 10 p.m.

Wait less time for your table! Have you reviewed my "Request the Best Times For Your Advance Dining Reservations" vacation planning article? Using my advice can make a difference between waiting 5 to 10 minutes for your table, or 20 to 40. Does this sound important, Carl? Please have a look. ;>)


How to Find: It's located in the front of the Norway pavilion on the far right side. Enter through the pavilion's main entrance area and there's usually a cast member or two standing out front with their bright costumes. (Look for the sign in my picture graphic above!)


Your Princess Breakfast arrival time: The Norway pavilion is in the World Showcase, which doesn't open until 11 a.m. If your ADR is before 9 a.m., look for the "Breakfast Entrance" when you arrive at the turnstiles -- these cast members are usually towards the left side. They'll verify that you have an Advanced Dining Reservation and will allow you in early. (Walk behind Spaceship Earth, go past large water fountain to lagoon, turn left, second pavilion on left.) If it's after 9 a.m., you'll be asked to verify your ADR with a cast member at the bridge just before Mexico. To ensure you arrive early enough, please review "How Are You Getting to the Theme Parks?" Have fun, Carl!

Princesses are VERY popular: My 'popular' tag above IS there for a very good reason, Carl! You MUST call Disney Dining as close to your 180-day Reservation Window as possible, and as soon as Disney Dining opens. Tip: All those guests who don't make it into the Cinderella's Character Breakfast & Lunch usually ask for this one as a second choice! To have you prepared with my very popular phone tips, please review "About That Cinderella Character Meal" and apply it to this location as well!

It’s pronounced Au-kurs--hooose: I had problems remembering how to pronounce this special place for years until a friendly Norwegian taught me what it actually translated to! The famous castle was a ‘house’ owned and lived in by the ‘Akers’ family. It’s their house. Get it? Separate the ‘s’ from the ‘h’ and it makes sense. And now you know …

Sunday, September 16, 2007

Itinerary Planning!!!

Within the next few days, I'll be adding new blogs for the individual days.

Question: What time does TFF flight get in?

Question: What time does TDF flight get in?

I'm presuming that TFF flight comes in on the Saturday (October 27). Is anybody up for something on the Saturday evening? Ewa???

SUNDAY, OCTOBER 28: Itinerary for today is dominated by the MNSSHP. My recommendation is to rest up for the 4 p.m. start and take it easy for the day. More on the MNSSHP later (seperate blog to be set up).

MONDAY, OCTOBER 29: Suggestions? The extra-magic hour (EMH) is at Animal Kingdom and it's in the morning. Normally, I wouldn't be interested in the AK, but I really want to try Expedition Everest (roller coaster) - it didn't exist in 2005. The other rides that interest me: Primeval Whirl, It's tough to be a bug (3D movie), Dinosaur!, Kali River Rapids, Kilamanjaro Safaris, and maybe Finding Nemo: The Musical.

TourGuideMike (TGM) green lights Epcot and MGM for the whole day (in terms of crowd size). And I'm obviously "down" (i.e. good) with both of these parks. Keep in mind, it'll be a late night on the 28th, so weaker/sleepier members may not want to make this an early morning. My preliminary plan: Hit AK and then hop to MGM, then resort for nap/swim. Evening plan: Fireworks at Epcot?

Final note: If we don't see Wishes (fireworks) at MK on Monday, our next chance is Thursday (Nov 1). There's a MNSSHP on Friday (Nov 2) which means no Wishes again until Nov 3 - and TKF is long gone by then, although we will probably catch it at least once before TFF and TDF arrive. Just something to consider....

Tuesday, August 28, 2007

TDP - August 28, 2007

It's getting very close, my friends. We've "Pricelined" most of our non-Disney days - just need to get hooked up for Savannah on the first Saturday and Sunday nights of our trip and we're ready.

I've reviewed the ZQG discount code offer and it doesn't really work out as much of a savings for us. The "room only" discount was being offered - the room and ticket discount was OK, but with the CAA rate and the fact that I think I could get tickets cheaper on my own, I didn't bother. I still have to call to see if the Annual Pass discount is available - that one may be worth it.

Couple of quick things I've discovered in addition to some of the obvious changes at WDW that I'm sure everyone already knows about.

1. There's a "National Treasures" display at The American Adventure in Epcot. Among the treasures on exhibit: One of Abraham Lincoln's stove pipe hats, a moon rock, and as they say - lots more.

2. The outdated film at the Canada Pavillion in Epcot has been changed. The original nearly 30 years old, presented a fairly narrow view of Canada (i.e. Toronto, Vancouver, Montreal) and was, well, a little dull. Martin Short has been added as a narrator for the new CircleVision 360 flick. We haven't seen the old movie in 15 years (it was that bad), but the new one sounds interesting.

3. The Haunted Mansion is presently going through a long reno (much to the dismay of many summer vacationers). When it reopens, expect some changes.

4. Pirates of the Carribean (POTC) has undergone a thorough reno; it's been updated to include some elements from the POTC movie. There's also a show outside the ride, with a Johnny Depp look-a-like interacting with the crowd.

I'll update with more changes as time and blogging permit.

I'd appreciate everyone's thoughts on visiting Blizzard Beach. Typhoon Lagoon closes for it's long annual rehab on October 28 (Sunday).

Thursday, August 16, 2007

Research volunteers needed

OK. I'm super busy this time around, at least until the Lynx season and baseball blogging is over - honestly, with cycling and non-WDW blogging, most of my free time has been eaten up.

Tonight I'm going to try to reach WDW via 1-800 on my cell. A couple of things I'm looking at:

1) Annual Pass discounts have been released - Value Resorts at $64! Need to check what the cost of an AP is to see if it's worth it (I can book up to three rooms, so the savings may be substantial).

2) Rate code released for the time we're there. The code is "ZQG" and here's what some have been getting:

I just upgraded to POR for $30 more than my pkg price for ASMO!!!!!!!!

YAY! I saved a whopping $163 on my AAA package with today's code says my TA!

I'll do my best to track stuff down, but if I can't, I may ask for a little research help.

I still have no replies on the questions I posed earlier this week!

Monday, August 13, 2007

Double stuff

A month without posting and then two in one day! Okay, here's the deal: efficient little imps that they are, WDW shipped the MNSSHP tickets within about 5 minutes of my call (at least according to the FedEx shipping receipt). Not the end of the world, but they'll need to be shipped back and exchanged.

Let me reiterate my reasoning for the 28th which, in light of your flight arrival time, makes some sense.

1. There are three dates available to us as a group (4 if you count November 2, but since we leave early on November 3, I don't see it as a "group" option) - October 28, 30, 31. The 30th and 31st will be the most crowded dates. I was surprised by how busy the 31st was in 2005, and not pleasantly so.

2. My own personal preference is for people to see MK first - everyone has their favorites of course, but MK seems to be most popular (it is traditionally the busiest park in general). A Sunday start at 4 p.m. at MK would allow UJ to relax for nearly 24 hrs. before stepping into a theme park. If this isn't enough time for UJ, what's the alternate TFF plan for the 28th (not a rhetorical question, BTW)?

3. WDW is so insulated from the outside world, I don't think the kids will notice it's not the actual day for Hallowe'en if we go on the Sunday. Similarly, I don't think they'll notice/care that they're not trick-or-treating on the 31st.

4. On the other hand, an MHSSHP on the 31st would be a nice mid-week break for those who approached it like 2005 (i.e. nothing in the a.m., MK from 4-12). Having said that, the late night on the 31st would likely scuttle the following morning too, at least for some. Not a big deal for those of us who can get by on little sleep, but for those who can't it means that the mornings of October 28 (presuming the flight is still being recovered from), 31st and November 1 have all been surrendered. That's too many lost mornings, although we can plan an itinerary around it.

Bottom line: It doesn't really matter a whole lot to me; I don't plan on losing any mornings, notwithstanding what we've done the night before. WDW is not a place where I want to "catch up on my sleep" - I plan to go in well rested, in shape and have a blast for as long and as late as I can. I'll sleep when I'm dead. The only thing leading me away from the 31st is how busy it will be. My prime planning directive is crowd avoidance.

Itinerary planning input

People!

I realize the blog hasn't been updated nearly enough lately - I'm going to try to do a post a day from here on in. What I need to know asap:

1. When is everyone arriving?
2. What parks does everyone want to see?
3. How many early a.m. starts can your family tolerate?
4. How many late nights?
5. Evenings out - we (i.e. TKF, The Kiiffner Family) intend to spend at least three nights at Pleasure Island (e.g. Adventurers Club, Comedy Warehouse) during our stay.
6. Cinderella's Royal Table or Princess Storybook Breakfast (Breakfast, Lunch, Dinner) - yes or no. I'm planning on PSB at Epcot, but I'm not certain if we'll try for breakfast or lunch. (I'm leaning toward lunch).
7. Fireworks - Wishes, Illuminations, Fantasmic. Any, all, none?

As part of "the daily post" (TDP), I'm going to throw out a topic for discussion. Today's topic is a big one: Day one. What to do?

The larger issue is which day is day one? For TFF (The Fronc Family), this will depend a great deal upon arrival time of the flight. TKF official Day 1 is likely October 25 (a Thursday), but may be even earlier. TDF (The Day Family) may arrive on the 27th, but unless it's an extremely late flight, there'll be no holding back Mr. Day from attempting something that day.

If the collective Day 1 is the 28th, what to do? My preference is always get to the MK as early in the vacation as possible, and according to TourGuide Mike (TGM), Sunday a.m.'s not bad, and there's an Extra Magic Hour (EMH) that morning. It's a "Little Ones at MK" EMH, meaning only Fantasyland attractions are open. All ages can attend the 8 a.m. start. The rest of the park opens at 9 a.m.

According to TGM's crowd predictor, Animal Kingdom (AK), Epcot, and MGM are all greenlighted. If this is going to be an "easy" day, but people still want to go to a park in the afternoon/evening, options are going to be limited. MK will close at 7 because of the Hallowe'en party. AK closes at 5. MGM has an EMH and with MK closed for the MNSSHP, it'll be busy. Epcot's not bad, but it will be busy too.

"TDP format".
As feedback comes in, I will post each family's preferences - in the following manner:

TKF response to TDP: TKF's flexible on Day 1 activities, but will likely head to MK in the a.m. Likely a nap/swim in the PM, with a Pleasure Island (PI) evening tentatively planned. No Wishes fireworks available tonight, and Fantasmic's not really an option, so if any fireworks are planned it'll have to be Illuminations.

TFF response: Pending.

EVA response: Pending.

TDF response: Pending.